Neighborhood watch or neighborhood threat?

LENZISUDDUTH | Guest Columnist

Many of us have heard the controversy about Trayvon Martin, a 17-year-old boy who was shot and killed by a community watchman in Sanford, Fla on Feb. 26. The dispute over whether the watchman’s deadly actions were done in self-defense has yet to be decided. Conflicting evidence indicates that both Martin and Zimmerman were the victims of the other’s violent acts in the situation. As of now, no one is sure what happened that night in February, but one thing is certain: If the watchman, George Zimmerman, was not carrying a firearm, then Trayvon Martin would not have been shot. There may have still been a confrontation between the two, but the chances of death would have been highly unlikely.

Illustration by: Zach Waggoner

Illustration by: Zach Waggoner


To attain a conceal-carry license you have to have a clean criminal background and pass a test of licensure. Zimmerman may have been trained on gun safety, but there is no evidence that indicates his ability to deal with confrontation or other police actions. In fact, reports state that Zimmerman was an insurance underwriter prior to his job of watchman, a position he was appointed to because he was the only person to volunteer at a community meeting. Zimmerman was instructed to keep an eye out for suspicious behavior and call 911 if he noticed anything out of the ordinary. In his personal account of that night, Zimmerman admitted to following Martin, thus taking action into his own hands, which he ought not have done. Obviously, Zimmerman exceeded his authority and overstepped his job description.
I do not necessarily feel that a conceal-carry permit is bad. I do, however, feel that these licenses have the potential to be abused, and I feel that stipulations to the law need to be passed. I feel that this is especially prevalent when it comes to people who are trusted to use passive behaviors in certain positions, rather than aggressive ones. I think that having a conceal-carry permit made Zimmerman feel he was empowered to take matters into his own hands, even though he lacked the training necessary to do so. I am very against conceal-carry permits for citizens without formal training. This restriction could save many lives, and, if one had been in place earlier, it could have saved 17-year-old Trayvon Martin.


Educated carriers mean safer community

CHRIS STOCKTON | Guest Columnist

I am an active member of Gorillas for Concealed Carry at Pittsburg State University and a very strong supporter of the Second Amendment, one of the very chisels that helped shape America. As such, I feel the right to protect one’s self, family or fellow citizens in need is of the utmost importance. In the case of Trayvon Martin, I feel George Zimmerman, or any law-abiding citizen, should be allowed to exercise their right to carry a weapon for self-defense. I am not arguing that Mr. Zimmerman was right in what he did; that is for a jury, not the media, to decide. Mr. Zimmerman is entitled to due process under the law, just like everyone else.
It’s easy to take a case like this and use it to argue against gun rights. However, those who jump on the opportunity to use this case for that reason, while the facts are still unclear, clearly demonstrate their anti-gun bias. Similarly these same people will take what happened on April 2 at Oikos University in East Oakland, Calif., where seven people were killed, plus the two shootings at Virginia Tech in the last few years, and use them to argue for stricter gun control laws, completely ignoring the fact that Oikos University is a “gun-free” zone. In light of the random acts of craziness going on these days, I feel it is very important for anyone choosing to carry a gun to be educated on gun rights and control and be properly trained too. There are no physical barriers keeping guns off campus, and you can never really be sure that the person next to you in class or walking next to you on the sidewalk isn’t going to open fire. I am one of many students who would feel safer knowing there were licensed and trained, students and faculty at any given location who could react to a hostile situation instead of no one being able to do a thing to stop it. If a potential gunman knew that there were concealed-carry holders around who could counter their terroristic threats then they would be less likely to act out.
Pitt State is currently an open campus, which means that the current, gun-free policy provides virtually no protection. Any person can walk into any room in any building, and this very thing could happen to us. I am sure the places where shootings have occurred thought it would not happen to them either, but it did! The Kansas Legislature is debating Kansas House Bill 2353, which is an amendment to the current Personal and Family Protection Act. If passed it will allow properly trained and licensed students and faculty to carry on campus. If the university chooses not to let us carry then they have to take the security measures of guarding and securing the doors to prevent a gunman from entering. I encourage everyone to read this bill, and come to meetings of the Gorillas for Concealed Carry, or search for us on Facebook at Gorillas for Concealed Carry on Campus. Your voice counts!

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4 Responses to “Neighborhood watch or neighborhood threat?”
  1. CM says:

    The one thing that is being completely overlooked is that it was not a gun that killed Trayvon Martin. It was the poor judgement of one man. The issue being debated is not the simple fact of one man who acted in a manner that resulted in a death, the issues being debated are the “stand your ground” laws that do not even apply in this situation.
    Stand your ground or castle doctrines allow for the use of deadly force ONLY when such force is necessary to stop or prevent an imminent threat against innocent life. Zimmerman’s case does not meet the standard set forth by law.
    Anti gun politicians have cherry picked this case, not out of any true remorse for the loss of this young man’s life, but to further their own agenda, despite the fact that in EVERY state that has adopted a stand your ground law the murder rate has dropped 8% and violent crime is down more than 9%, while according to Forbes, violent criminals have been shot and killed 2.5 times more by concealed carry holders than by police officers and have fewer than one fifth the amount of accidental or mistaken identity shootings than police.
    See stats here: http://www.forbes.com/sites/larrybell/2012/02/21/disarming-the-myths-promoted-by-the-gun-control-lobby/
    As for the training, I absolutely agree that if you’re going to carry you need advanced training, and most people who carry go and get it. It is nearly impossible to live in an area that does not offer formalized training, in fact there are 3 different trainers (probably more) within 20 miles of Pittsburg that offer advanced firearms courses that are more intensive than most police officers receive.

    People make bad judgements every day, and many times people are hurt because of it. That does not mean that the government has the right to eggcrate the world by stripping us of our civil liberties. We have a civil right to free speech, a right to be judged by our peers in a trial, we have a right against unlawful police searches, and we have a right to defend ourselves with the equipment that is most effective.

  2. 333maxwell says:

    For anyone that is interested….
    I am an audio guy..

    I took the 911 call with the most audio informatiion regarding screams, compressed it, ran it at half speed and pitch corected it 100 percent.. even though it runs slower (just a tenth over half speed) anyone with an ear for music can tell not a note has been changed.. Digital affords you this luxury. In the analog days we had to physically slow the tape/medium down and you lose pitch and clarity.

    Anyway, what I find most interesting is the voice soiund (it is the same voice as the screaming according to wav form) at about 1:12 right after the final shot.

    THIS AUDIO IS NOT ENHANCED per sey.. not like enhancing a photo.. the only enhancing has been to adust volume levels so you don’t hurt your ear listening to everything at relative volume levels.

    There are a few swirling artifacts in this copy because I had to compres the wav file to a 128 kbps mp3 to fit on my page so you had a player to hear it on.. These artifacts are slight and will not distract.

    The 911 call as you have never heard it before, draw your own conclusions. Listen for the scream after the shot.

    http://soundclick.com/share.cfm?id=11548279

    This exercise is just a way to access the call and hear things you would not of just listening to the raw recording.

  3. kafantaris says:

    To get a feel of what went on the night Trayvon Martin was killed, you need to listen to that 911 call made by a neighbor. The fatal shot is heard in the background.
    Just listen to it.
    You don’t need any experts.
    You don’t need to know anything about the case.
    You don’t even need an open mind.
    But you need to listen to that heart-wrenching call.
    Then draw your own conclusions.
    All you need are your ears and a heart not made of stone.
    http://soundclick.com/share.cfm?id=11548279

  4. Oche says:

    If it was a cop that got murdered, then cops would do eeyvrthing they can by the book, to get their killer. However, we also know that the cops also break the law to catch the killer although they have been known to not get the killer and instead send an innocent person to prison.It is amazing that America is awash in guns; however, it doesn’t make the streets safe for ordinay people from street criminals, organized crime, corporate crime, white collar crime, computer crime, and corrupt, incompetent, dishonest police.We seems to have enough evidence to convict Rick Scott of Medicare fraud; however, he was allowed to walk and now is the Governor of Florida.

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