Gunning down the arms barriers

Reasonable restriction or unnecessary infringement?

In deciding whether to allow lawful concealed-carry on campus, the question that must be answered is not why is concealed-carry needed, but what reasons are there to restrict or deny concealed-carry? Anytime a right is restricted it is crucial that the decision to do so be based on solid evidence and not mere supposition. The burden of proof should not be on the citizen to demonstrate a need for his or her right; rather the onus should be on the party that wishes to restrict that right to prove that such action is necessary.
Concealed-carry is currently allowed at several community colleges and universities in states such as Colorado, Virginia and Utah. To date there has not been any reported incidents at any of these schools, and they aren’t experiencing any of the negative consequences the opposition insists will occur if lawful concealed-carry is allowed. Further, according to a 2009 study, Brigham Young and Utah State were both ranked among the top 25 safest colleges. It is worthwhile to note that concealed-carry on campus has been allowed in Utah since 2006.
Despite this visible evidence, the opposition continues to make the assertion that allowing lawful concealed-carry on campus will create an increase in violent crimes, destroy the safe atmosphere of

Photo by: Hunter Peterson

Photo by: Hunter Peterson

colleges and create an environment prohibitive to learning.
Even if one were to assume that guns on campus would be a problem, what logic is there behind denying lawful carry of a firearm while taking no steps to prevent unlawful carry? Colleges are not closed environments, and there are no physical barriers to prevent anyone from carrying on our campus. There is no sense in attempting to make the campus safer if you remove firearms only from citizens who are willing to follow the law.
George Washington said, “It will be found an unjust and unwise jealousy to deprive a man of his natural liberty upon the supposition he may abuse it.” To continue to deny concealed-carry permit holders the right to lawfully carry on campus when no tangible barrier exists to prevent anyone from bringing a gun on campus is truly unjust and unwise.
More information about concealed-carry on campus can be found at: http://concealedcampus.org/common-arguments/

The risks outweigh the benefits

Support for the Second Amendment is the fundamental argument of students who support House Bill 2353. Although I am a supporter of the Second Amendment, I believe there are situations where guns, concealed or in the open, are not appropriate.
Because of the ideological ocean that separates me from the proponents of HB 2353, I will forgo the emotional appeals and focus on the data to put this debate in context. To begin with there are no specific statistical data that prove college campuses would be safer if students were allowed to conceal on campus. Kansas’ institutions of higher education are extremely safe. According to the Federal Bureau of Investigation, violent crimes committed on university property account for less than 1 percent of all violent crimes. In 2011, there were only five recorded deaths attributed to college shootings in the United States. In comparison, more than 4,000 college students take their own lives every year. Traditional college-age students are 800 times more likely to commit suicide than get killed during a school shooting. These rare situations should not be taken out of context, nor should they be allowed to scare people into supporting increased access for conceal and carry.
College campuses are not just classrooms; the university is a unique environment that sponsors a day care, holds athletic and cultural events in addition to welcoming distinguished guests and conferences. Certain classrooms would become exponentially more dangerous if firearms were present. For example, an accidental discharge in a chemistry classroom could release dangerous gases that could harm students. In conversations with University Police, many believe having a student with a conceal and carry license could confuse a police officer and lead to unnecessary casualties.
Given the excessive binge drinking that occurs on college campuses, allowing weapons would be dangerous and irresponsible. A study conducted at the University of Florida found that two-thirds of gun-owning college students engage in binge drinking. Gun-owning students are more likely to drink frequently, excessively and engage in risky activities, such as driving when under the influence of alcohol than their unarmed counterparts. The Centers for Disease Control reports that 51 percent of traditional college students binge drink at least once a month.
If HB 2353 is signed into law, students would see drastic changes in university functions. The university provides a great atmosphere to host conferences and camps on campus. If HB 2353 becomes the law of the land, it is conceivable that attendance at camps that support athletics and arts could drop off. As for university athletic events, the current bylaws of the MIAA would force the university to provide metal detectors at every entrance of the Weede. In order to secure all doors on campus, the university would be forced to post metal detectors at all entrances. These costs are estimated to be at least $5 million and would be passed on to the students in the form of student fees.
Organizations such as Kansas Students for Concealed Carry are unfortunately being hoodwinked by a simple political trick. The Kansas House passed a bill to allow conceal and carry on college campuses in each of the last two years. The problem with the proposed bills is the Senate leadership has no interest in allowing the bills to be introduced on the floor. Many of the experienced and moderate senators have expressed concern with the logistics of HB 2353. These experienced legislators see HB 2353 for the simple political trick it is.
Finally, HB 2353 has little to do with student safety. It is, in fact, a simple function of our never-ending campaign and primary cycles. I urge the elected representatives in Topeka to stop playing political games and take this pointless and irresponsible piece of legislation off the table.

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4 Responses to “Gunning down the arms barriers”
  1. Chris says:

    Mr. Mills did the right thing in citing statistics rather than resting on emotional appeals. The problem is that the statistics were not germane to the issue and Mr. Mills found himself victim to the same argument he leveled against proponents of the bill. There’s also the anecdotal, and fabricated mention of gun owning students binge drink, and are therefore a liability. The last I checked, the volstead act hasn’t been renewed and alcohol is legal, and persons 21 and older may lawfully drink and own firearms. Secondly, owning a firearm does not also mean that a person may carry it. A person may own firearms but not qualify for a carry permit. It should also be noted that the implication Mr. Mills is making is that gun owning students are inherently irresponsible, yet the state and the FBI have deemed us responsible enough to carry a firearm.
    The argument never changes regardless of who regurgitates it, that supposedly there is rampant drug abuse and binge drinking on college campuses, which if that’s the case the entire PSU “police” staff needs to join the other 9% of America on the unemployment line as they obviously cannot maintain the “safe” atmosphere that Mr. Mills believes exists. Since the argument is the same, so shall be the answer. The idea that a person who is deemed safe to carry a firearm in bars, on the street, in walmart, and virtually everywhere else but that person, when crossing some arbitrarily defined property line will become a mass murderer is insane, insulting and indicative of gravely underdeveloped critical thinking skills.
    Mr. Mills and others may believe that school shootings are rare, and they are welcome to that (false) opinion, however statistically insignificant they believe them to be, I am not a statistic and I will not support muzzling legislation that will try to turn me into one. The callousness of the marginalization of human lives lost in school shootings is reprehensible, and I will not support any entity or individual who wants to expose their students to danger to save a few pennies and disarm them because of some misguided anti gun philosophy. For the record, one cannot be pro second amendment and be for disarming the citizenry anymore than you can be pro free speech but only for politicians.

    • Mr. Mills says:

      Weapons concealed or in the open are not allowed in bars.

      • Chris says:

        On the contrary,
        The Kansas Personal and Family Protection act (the Concealed carry law) allows concealed carry by all licensees in any public or private building (with the exception of those owned and operated by the federal government) unless they are “conspicuously posted” with appropriate signage.

        Excerpt of the KPFPA

        75-7c10. Same; places where carrying concealed weapon not authorized; penalties for
        violations. (a) PROVIDED THAT THE PREMISES ARE CONSPICUOUSLY POSTED in accordance with rules and regulations adopted by the
        attorney general as premises where carrying a concealed handgun is prohibited, no license issued or recognized pursuant to
        this act shall authorize the licensee to carry a concealed handgun into the building of:
        …(9) any drinking establishment as defined by K.S.A. 41-2601, and amendments thereto;….Et Al.
        You’ll note that Section 10 (75c10) places a provision that requires those places to post signage before making it a restricted area.

        Prior to February of 2011, the law disallowed (regardless of signage) carrying in an establishment that made a majority of its profit from the sale of alcohol (however only sectioning off those places that served alcohol to be consumed on-site). This was then redefined to mean any establishment with AG approved signage.
        Any private or public building must be posted with the “gun buster” sign before it can be illegal to carry there. Moreover, the law does not allow for anything but a building to be posted, so in reality the signs posted around campus in parking lots, etc are in conflict with the standing law, as the law goes on to say that nothing shall prohibit a permit holder from securing their firearm in their personal means of conveyance (vehicle) on any property.

        If you read the law, you’ll notice that college campuses are also specifically mentioned in the same section as the drinking establishments, and thus are subject to the same requirements to lawfully restrict carry. In other words, should the University, separate from the KBOR, decide to take down the signage, students could carry, although the only restrictions the university can lawfully enforce are the campus buildings, and nothing prohibits students to secure their weapons in their vehicles, except that they risk university disciplinary action, although they are immune from criminal prosecution in such a case. Further, any carry in a restricted zone earns the penalty of a $50 fine for the first offense.

  2. Rusty says:

    My comment is in regards to Chris. I commend you on your well thought out, logical, and rational responses backed up with definitive citations.

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